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PostSubject: Doug Yates to become minority owner to gain points transfer?   Doug Yates to become minority owner to gain points transfer? EmptyMon Feb 01, 2010 4:38 pm

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Sirius NASCAR Radio's Sirius Speedway with Dave Moody has learned that talks are underway between Yates Racing and Front Row Motorsports to enable a transfer of owner's points that would lock all three Front Row Motorsports Fords into the first five races of the 2010 season. Reliable sources say Front Row Motorsports will assume the owner's points accrued last season by Yates' #96 and #98 Fords, which finished 31st and 33rd respectively in the final 2009 owner's standings. Talks are reportedly in their preliminary stages, but are progressing rapidly with an eye toward completing the deal by midweek. It is expected that in order for the dagreement to pass muster with NASCAR, Yates Racing owner Doug Yates will have to assume a minority ownership stake in Front Row Motorsports. Front Row's #34 car is already a guaranteed starter in the first five races after finishing 35th in owner's points a year ago.(Sirius Speedway)(2-1-2010)
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PostSubject: Re: Doug Yates to become minority owner to gain points transfer?   Doug Yates to become minority owner to gain points transfer? EmptyTue Feb 02, 2010 3:34 pm

God I hope not. I was looking forward to just pulling for RPM since they took over Yates. Now if Yates is involved here, I have some attatchment to these teams and I don't know if I can handle another full season of pulling for guys who are likely to run in the rear of the pack.
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I don't think he'll actually be any kind of involved owner in the team; only an "owner" in the sense of convincing NASCAR to allow the points transfer and nothing more. It's possible that he could be listed as the owner of the 37 and/or 38 cars on the entry list each week. (Last season, Teresa Earnhardt was listed as owner of the 34 car because they transferred the points from the 8 team to the 34.)
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PostSubject: Re: Doug Yates to become minority owner to gain points transfer?   Doug Yates to become minority owner to gain points transfer? EmptyTue Feb 02, 2010 4:54 pm

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Front Row Motorsports will have all three of its drivers – John Andretti, Travis Kvapil and Robert Richardson – locked in for the first five races of the 2010 Sprint Cup Series season, including the Daytona 500, after Doug Yates became minority owner of two of the organization's cars, the team announced today.

The team will be renamed Front Row Motorsports with Yates Racing.

Andretti already was locked in thanks to the 35th-place position in 2010 owner points for the No. 34 Front Row car, which he drove last season. Kvapil, who will be driving the No. 37 Front Row entry at Daytona, and Richardson, who will be driving the No. 38 Front Row car at Daytona, can now get the points from Yates Racing’s No. 96 and No. 98 cars from last year.

The No. 96 car was driven primarily by Bobby Labonte and Erik Darnell last year and finished 31st in the owner standings. That car was operated by Yates Racing through an agreement with Hall of Fame Racing, but Yates controlled those points.

The No. 98 car was driven by Paul Menard and finished 33rd in the owner standings.

NASCAR typically does not allow the sale of points, but does allow transfers as long as a member of the original ownership group is a member of the new ownership group. It is not surprising Yates made a deal with Front Row, which has become a Ford team this year.

Yates, who co-owned Yates Racing with Max Jones, does not have an ownership part in Richard Petty Motorsports, which merged with Yates Racing after last season. That allowed Yates to make the deals with Front Row owner Bob Jenkins for the transfer of points because they aren’t considered owners at RPM. RPM will not have the No. 44 on the track this year (it was driven last year by AJ Allmendinger, who has moved to the No. 43 car formerly driven by Reed Sorenson), so it will transfer the No. 44 points to the No. 98 of Menard. The No. 44 car was 24th in the standings last year.

"There has been a lot of movement this past off-season inside the sport," Yates said. "The opportunity came up with Bob and to continue in the ownership role. I didn't have to think long about making this decision. Bob is really putting together a strong team this season and has done so over the past few seasons.

“He's been smart and making all the right moves as an owner. He's capitalized on the changes in the sports landscape and has built a solid team with great factory support and drivers. That's what excited me about making this move. … They are a fast-improving team and this move allows me to carry on the Yates Racing legacy created by my father over 20 years ago."

Other points transfers expected are for Richard Childress Racing’s No. 07, which has been shut down, to be transferred to Furniture Row Racing’s No. 78 and driver Regan Smith. Roush Fenway Racing, which had to drop its No. 26 team to comply with NASCAR’s four-team cap, was allowed to sell the points as part of a sale of its cars to Latitude 43 Motorsports, which will have Boris Said behind the wheel.

On the outside looking in as far as trying to qualify on speed for the Daytona 500 will be Red Bull Racing’s Scott Speed, whose car was 36th in points. TRG Motorsports, which was 37th in owner points, should get a spot if it needs one with Labonte eligible for a past champion’s provisional.

Andretti and Richardson will not drive the entire season for Front Row. Kvapil will move to the No. 34 car starting with the second race of the season while rookie Kevin Conway, who was not approved for Daytona, will be in the No. 37. David Gilliland will run most of the races in the No. 38 car.

Starting with the sixth race of the season, 2010 owners points will determine who has the 35 guaranteed spots each week.
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They are a fast-improving team and this move allows me to carry on the Yates Racing legacy created by my father over 20 years agoNOW I'M FEELING A LITLE BIT BETTER.
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Of course I realize why this took place. FRM needed YATES Points and I guess FORD and ROUSH were behind this decision. I personally don't mind. Ohhhhhhh Andrew we need a name change------- Front Row Motorsports to Front Row Motorsports with Yates Racing (LOL)
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Not sure how you can trace this back to Jack Roush... ??? In what way could this possibly help him? Pretty sure this decision was one made by Doug Yates and the folks from Ford. Doug probably got a nice check from Front Row for the points and for the use of his name, and now he'll go happily back to building engines...


As for the name change, I don't know... we'll see if they actually call the team "Front Row Motorsports with Yates Racing" or just Front Row Motorsports. Chip Ganassi Racing, for example is officially named "Chip Ganassi Racing with Felix Sabates", but you don't hear the whole name very often.
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TeamBlueOval wrote:
Not sure how you can trace this back to Jack Roush... ??? In what way could this possibly help him? Pretty sure this decision was one made by Doug Yates and the folks from Ford. Doug probably got a nice check from Front Row for the points and for the use of his name, and now he'll go happily back to building engines...


As for the name change, I don't know... we'll see if they actually call the team "Front Row Motorsports with Yates Racing" or just Front Row Motorsports. Chip Ganassi Racing, for example is officially named "Chip Ganassi Racing with Felix Sabates", but you don't hear the whole name very often.
Andrew you have got to be kidding. I'm surprised you even said that.This is a FORD Roush deal. FORD wants ALL THE FORD CARS THAT CAN MANAGE AND WITH ROUSH'S HELP. ROUSH HAS MORE ALLIANCES THAN CARTER HAS PILLS. (JOKING) I think even Roush can't keep up with all the past and present alliances he has had or been a part of.
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Jack Roush isn't some evil dictator out to conquer the world. Smile
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The RPM guys, especially Kahne and Allmendinger, are still my main guys, but now I'm going to have to have a rooting interest in seeing these three run well also.

Kvapil I have hope for, but not with this team. Gilliland, not so much and then I never even heard of the third driver.
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eehwkram wrote:
The RPM guys, especially Kahne and Allmendinger, are still my main guys, but now I'm going to have to have a rooting interest in seeing these three run well also.

Kvapil I have hope for, but not with this team. Gilliland, not so much and then I never even heard of the third driver.
Well lets just wait and see. I have faith in the YATES/FORD engine.
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Jack Roush isn't some evil dictator out to conquer the world. Smile
HE IS NOT EVIL JUST A MAN WITH A MASTER PLAN AND DOESN'T MIND WHO HE TAKES DOWN IN GETTING THE MASTER PLAN COMPLETED. JMO
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Well lets just wait and see. I have faith in the YATES/FORD engine.

Engines don't mean anything if the car isn't setup and handling right. Wink
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HE DOESN'T WANT TO CONQUER THE WORLD he just wants FORD to conquer Nascar and this I applaud. BTW do you really think Roush doesn't rule the roost. Rolling Eyes
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Yatesracing wrote:
Well lets just wait and see. I have faith in the YATES/FORD engine.

Engines don't mean anything if the car isn't setup and handling right. Wink
well they are getting Roush's chassis and I hope they are a lot better than the ones they sold to YATES. Might have learned something doing the off season.
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The main difference for this team is that they have been given wind tunnel time and engineering support from Ford. And with Doug supervising their engine program, that is even better.

Wind tunnel time can be make or break for a team.
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Not sure how you can trace this back to Jack Roush... ??? In what way could this possibly help him? Pretty sure this decision was one made by Doug Yates and the folks from Ford. Doug probably got a nice check from Front Row for the points and for the use of his name, and now he'll go happily back to building engines...


As for the name change, I don't know... we'll see if they actually call the team "Front Row Motorsports with Yates Racing" or just Front Row Motorsports. Chip Ganassi Racing, for example is officially named "Chip Ganassi Racing with Felix Sabates", but you don't hear the whole name very often.
I agree GG Jack has everything to do with this,after all he will be selling engines and chassis.........just hope they can all benefit from it....and NOT just Jack. JMO
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Like I said at the beginning Doug's first mistake after taking over ROBERT YATES TEAM, WAS GOING OVER W/ ROUSH. As usual FATHER KNOWS BEST and Doug should have stayed with NH/L. What a different story we wouild be telling today. Well we can't change the past sooooooo lets hope for a GOOD YEAR FOR FORD IN Sad 2010. My heart isn't in it the way it was with RYR, BUT I AM HONESTLY TRYING. :(until Braun comes over ALL FORD DRIVERS WILL BE MY FAVORITES LOL)
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Like I said at the beginning Doug's first mistake after taking over ROBERT YATES TEAM, WAS GOING OVER W/ ROUSH. As usual FATHER KNOWS BEST and Doug should have stayed with NH/L. What a different story we wouild be telling today. Well we can't change the past sooooooo lets hope for a GOOD YEAR FOR FORD IN Sad 2010. My heart isn't in it the way it was with RYR, BUT I AM HONESTLY TRYING. :(until Braun comes over ALL FORD DRIVERS WILL BE MY FAVORITES LOL)
Yeah Kahne is definately mine..............just hope he will give Ford a chance and they run well.
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Like I said at the beginning Doug's first mistake after taking over ROBERT YATES TEAM, WAS GOING OVER W/ ROUSH. As usual FATHER KNOWS BEST and Doug should have stayed with NH/L. What a different story we wouild be telling today. Well we can't change the past sooooooo lets hope for a GOOD YEAR FOR FORD IN Sad 2010. My heart isn't in it the way it was with RYR, BUT I AM HONESTLY TRYING. :(until Braun comes over ALL FORD DRIVERS WILL BE MY FAVORITES LOL)
Yeah Kahne is definately mine..............just hope he will give Ford a chance and they run well.
I believe this will be Kahne's best year, at least thats what I'm hoping for.

AJ will be giving Kahne some real competition
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Of course I realize why this took place. FRM needed YATES Points and I guess FORD and ROUSH were behind this decision. I personally don't mind. Ohhhhhhh Andrew we need a name change------- Front Row Motorsports to Front Row Motorsports with Yates Racing (LOL)
saw this on another forum ---FRM W/YATES RACING. Gee did that look good
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Look this whole merger here and merger this is a ploy.(in order to gain an advantage with more cars on the track) They are all working with FORD/ROUSH to try and get all the FORD CARS on the track that they can manger. JUST CALL THIS "THE MASTER PLAN" and it better work. I SURE HOPE IT DOES.


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See all stories on this topic From Google Alerts
Front Row Motorsports Announces Partnership with Yates, Petty no where in sight
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Front Row Motorsports owner Bob Jenkins said the team would now be known as Front Row Motorsports with Yates Racing. Doug Yates, son of team founder Robert ...
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Understand that there was NO MERGER between Richard Petty Motorsports and Yates Racing.

Here is my answerto all of these changes LOL
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Look this whole merger here and merger there is a ploy.(in order to gain an advantage with more cars on the track) They are all working with FORD/ROUSH to try and get all the FORD CARS on the track that they can manger. JUST CALL THIS "THE MASTER PLAN" and it better work
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Front Row Motorsports and Yates Racing announced a partnership Tuesday.

Front Row Motorsports owner Bob Jenkins said the team would now be known as Front Row Motorsports with Yates Racing.

Doug Yates, son of team founder Robert Yates, will be listed as the owner on the No. 37 and No. 38 Ford Fusions, with Jenkins remaining the listed owner of the No. 34 Ford Fusion.

More importantly for the team, the merger will give all three entries the owner points that will keep them in a top 35 and give them guaranteed starting spots for the first five races of 2010.

The merger will reunite Yates with his former drivers David Gilliland and Travis Kvapil.

"There has been a lot of movement this past off-season inside the sport," said Yates. "The opportunity came up with Bob (Jenkins) and to continue in the ownership role. I didn't have to think long about making this decision. Bob is really putting together a strong team this season and has done so over the past few seasons. He's been smart and making all the right moves as an owner.”

Curiously the news comes only weeks after an official announcement that Yates had completed a merger with Richard Petty Motorsports. On January 20th during this year’s NASCAR Media Tour, managing partner Foster Gillette quieted the rumors that a merger had taken place.

"I'm here to announce the best kept secret in all of motorsports,” he said. “Which is that the merger between Yates Racing and Richard Petty Motorsports is officially completed."

Among the changes announced at the time Richard Petty Motorsports will maintain the alliance that Yates Racing had with Roush Fenway Racing and Doug Yates will be in charge of the Roush Yates engine program. As part of the merger RPM will move from its Statesville North Carolina headquarters to the Yates facility in Concord.

Front Row Motorsports also has its facilities in Statesville, and in their announcement said they would remain there.

So far there has been no comment from Richard Petty Motorsports.
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The Yates/FRM "merger" or "alliance" or whatever you want to call it is nothing more than a ploy to force NASCAR into allow the points transfer. It doesn't really mean much of anything other than that IMO.
Little known fact ... Bill Davis is a minority owner of "Penske Championship Racing" because he and Roger Penske made a similar "alliance" to get the 22 owner points for Sam Hornish last year.
The Yates/RPM merger was more of a real merger... actually, the way I understand it, it might have been a full buyout because it seems that Max Jones and Doug Yates have little to no ownership stake in RPM now.
The whole deal of all the mergers and alliances is confusing at best. It's all about positioning your team to be as profitable and competitive as possible. It doesn't matter how you have to do it; all team owners (especially the wealthy and powerful ones like Roush, Gillett, Hendrick, Gibbs, Childress, etc.) are going to do whatever it takes to make their team the best.
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Whether its a ploy or not. I'm not sure, I know I heard Doug talk about it on the Sirius interview. And to me it sounded like it meant something to him, that the RPM deal didn't mean. I know his main concern now a days is to build for all the ford teams. But it seamed like to me if he saw some success in FRM it would mean more than the rest. And I know if it has Yates name on it for what ever reason. Maybe just maybe in this ever changing crazy world or nascar. I might get to see a day where Yates is back on top where they once were. And in my mind where they belong. Now I feel just a little bit better about my racing year. Yes I was hoping for Ford to do well. And was hoping TK and DG could have some kind of success. But now I have a clear cut team to pull for again. And to me whether is true or not if it sayes the name Yates in it than it is partly Yates.
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